Monday, July 25, 2016

This is why speed limiters are a bad idea

It seems there is a great divide between those who live in and around trucking and those who don’t when it comes to whether speed limiting of trucks should be mandatory.

The arguments for speed limiters – by the anti-trucking groups and large motor carrier groups – are tied up in pretty wrapping-paper arguments of highway safety and saving the environment for the most part.

It’s pretty easy to throw common sense out the window and play to these emotional arguments, and unfortunately lawmakers and regulators seem to be doing their damnedest to buy in and push a mandate through.

To drive my point home, I’ll just share a video I came across this weekend as Exhibit A of what will be happening more and more on the highways if all trucks are speed limited.

A few things before you watch it. This video is not from the U.S., but we all know that stupid drivers know no national boundaries. There is some profanity. And I do not know whether the two trucks were speed limited. However, it obviously shows what happens when two trucks are trying to complete a pass that slows traffic and …. Well, just wait for it. 



Feel free to share on Facebook and Twitter. Tag your lawmaker. They could use a quick lesson in the reality of cars driving around speed-limited trucks. Better yet, share your experiences with stupid driving around speed-limited trucks you have witnessed or experienced. 

19 comments:

  1. What's that got to do with speed limiters? Looks more like stoopid 4 wheeler tricks, to me.

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    1. Wow......use your head for a minute and think aboutabout it. Even if trucks are all governed at a certain speed, there are going to variables that make one truck a little faster than another. And as observed here there are going to yruck drivers that feel they have to try and pass at the 1 mph difference. This causes road rage and reckless behavior from people stuck behind them. It is a perfect example of potencial complications from speed limiters

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    2. Wow......use your head for a minute and think aboutabout it. Even if trucks are all governed at a certain speed, there are going to variables that make one truck a little faster than another. And as observed here there are going to yruck drivers that feel they have to try and pass at the 1 mph difference. This causes road rage and reckless behavior from people stuck behind them. It is a perfect example of potencial complications from speed limiters

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    3. I guess you didn't notice the two trucks parked in the highway side by side. For miles, the drivers foot jammed on the speed limiters.
      4 wheelers have sense of entitlement about passing. That includes the cutting in front of the truck just passed slamming on their brakes so as not to miss their exit. And racing a truck to pass it on the on ramps to be in front of the truck just in time to brake to avoid the slower moving vehicle in front. Often missjudging, and merging into the right front tire of the truck they'd raced. At highway speeds this is often fatal.
      Speed limiters are not safe, Gov't. is not in the safe business, and doesn't give a shit about safe.
      If Gov't. actually cared about safe, there would be no lane restrictions, and no split speed limits. No mandatory, rigid hours of service that cause the trucks to be parked along the highway, Rest Areas exit, and entrance ramps when a truck stop, or the terminal is 30 minutes down the road. Many other restrictions, and requirements made in the name of safety, that create the most unsafe conditions. Gov't. adamantly refusing to correct these despite tangible proof these restrictions, mandates, etc., are indeed unsafe.
      Speed limiters are also unproductive, on several levels.

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    4. yes it is a dumb 4 wheeler, but think about it; trucking companies want you to slower. ask yourself why? they pay you less, they have better control of you, and they don't care about YOU. it will cause more wrecks. and than they say good bye. next fool please steep up. now where do you go ? you drive for someone that pay 25 cents a mile. NOW WHO IS THE DUMMIES, WE ALL ARE................

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    5. I guess you didn't notice the two trucks parked in the highway side by side. For miles, the drivers foot jammed on the speed limiters.
      4 wheelers have sense of entitlement about passing. That includes the cutting in front of the truck just passed slamming on their brakes so as not to miss their exit. And racing a truck to pass it on the on ramps to be in front of the truck just in time to brake to avoid the slower moving vehicle in front. Often missjudging, and merging into the right front tire of the truck they'd raced. At highway speeds this is often fatal.
      Speed limiters are not safe, Gov't. is not in the safe business, and doesn't give a shit about safe.
      If Gov't. actually cared about safe, there would be no lane restrictions, and no split speed limits. No mandatory, rigid hours of service that cause the trucks to be parked along the highway, Rest Areas exit, and entrance ramps when a truck stop, or the terminal is 30 minutes down the road. Many other restrictions, and requirements made in the name of safety, that create the most unsafe conditions. Gov't. adamantly refusing to correct these despite tangible proof these restrictions, mandates, etc., are indeed unsafe.
      Speed limiters are also unproductive, on several levels.

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  2. Trucks being passed are just as stupid not backing off a 1/2 second to let someone that will eventually pass anyway. This type of ignorance will get worse with speed limiters. Then the solution will be more lane restrictions for us. Think about that the next time you fail to let another pass.

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  3. Like the article says, there's not a lack of stupid drivers. Over the past few years it's gotten a lot worse in the trucking industry. Instead of the person being passed letting off for a few seconds and letting the truck in the left lane pass, we have these new idiots out here with no common sense clogging things up. Wake up newbies, people can't tolerate your ignorance anymore. Those two drivers acting that stupid should think God they weren't involved in a serious accident.

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  4. I'm sorry but if you have your cruse set the fault is not yours that the other truck can't pass. He should back out of it and get behind when he realizes he can't pass. Why should the driver in the right lane slow down instead of the other driver? Makes no sense to me

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    1. …And I'm sure when it's reversed you would get irate if the right lane truck didn't let off some to let you pass. Would you back out and get back behind? I doubt it. Since it has to be explained to you It's obvious you are a New breed rookie!

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    2. Well there are a few problems here. Uneducated four wheels with road rage. And two less than professional Comercial Drivers. We all know what are equipment is capable of. I do not drive fast. Normally under speed limit in right lane. I can safely pass anything if I want to. But for economy and safety I personally drive slower. I have and will back out of it when a truck or car comes down the ramp and is determined to get out in front of me. Or the truck that tries to pass in the left lane 1mph faster than me, plugging up road. I upsets me but Ill back out of it. More training for truck drivers and general public. The everyday motorist has a lack of training and education. Susie Smith is more worried about getting to Starbucks for there Frappuccino than there safty or little Timmy in the back seat because they are in titled to everything. People are the problem.

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    3. 'New Breed' i love when you asshats throw out. I started in 99 and trucks were doing that crap even before back then.

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    4. 'New Breed' i love when you asshats throw out. I started in 99 and trucks were doing that crap even before back then.

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    5. You may have passed the rookie stage but you are still a new breed. The cutoff for the last of the old schoolers is the pre-CDL era and you come after that.

      I bet you park in fuel islands without fueling and when you do, you probably sit there over 30 minutes. You probably park on highway shoulders for stupid reasons and then pull out in front of traffic from a dead stop since you are too stupid to use an off-ramp or rest area.

      I wouldn't be surprised if you have california plates on your truck!

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  5. It's called courtesy... You should think about it sometime

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  6. I think you all miss the point. Without limiters companies could set their speed how they wanted, based on their loads, where they drive, etc. So, this situation probably wouldn't happen very much at all because one of them could have passed and the other may very well have backed out.
    I've been driving almost 30 years, and my first road tractor had a 300hp Cummins with an 8 speed Fuller transmission (yes, before the merger with Eaton). I thought my tractor started slowing down the moment it saw a hill coming. So, I've seen a lot of this. With speed limiters there will only be more congestion on hills and more pissed off drivers, and you'll still have to fight the slow 4 wheelers pulling their campers, those just too afraid to drive the speed limit, others afraid of everyone around them speeding by. Etc. afraid to enter the highway so they show down. It's not easy making the decision what to do with so many inexperienced drivers out there.

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    1. First Fuller is, was, and always been a division of Eaton.
      I've been driving since 1975, my first truck had a Detroit Diesel 8V-71 318 and 4X4 Spicer transmissions manual shift.
      I repowered the truck with a Cummins 335. More than half the trucks I've driven had Spicer transmissions (2) Main, and auxiliary trans. manual shift. Two shifters. Air shift transmissions are prone to problems.
      The truck I have now I've driven for half my career.
      It's a hand built hot rod, a Cummins 14 litre engine uprated to 600+ hp,a turbo change, and a bit more fuel supply to the injectors, (already big) it's 1000 hp. A semi-slow truck, 90 mph at 2400 rpm in 8th over. To fix this, I have the big twin countershaft Spicer 5spd overdrive main trans., and a "C" auxiliary trans. to replace this air shift abomination 13 speed. Howling, whining ill shifting junk.
      That truck drivers aren't what they used to be, is true. There's always been two kinds of drivers, truck drivers, and people that drive a truck. Today the latter is the overwhelming majority of drivers. All drivers today, 4 wheeler, and truck are courtesy challenged. Selfish;, self-centered with the belief they alone are entitled to hold up traffic, cut other vehicles off, then brake sharply, pass on the shoulders, in turns, and be a danger to themselves, and others. These drivers actually believe that they are the best driver's ever, and no one can tell them different. Drivers that talk about how good a driver they are to any that will listen, are invariably the worst drivers on The road.

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    2. First Fuller is, was, and always been a division of Eaton.
      I've been driving since 1975, my first truck had a Detroit Diesel 8V-71 318 and 4X4 Spicer transmissions manual shift.
      I repowered the truck with a Cummins 335. More than half the trucks I've driven had Spicer transmissions (2) Main, and auxiliary trans. manual shift. Two shifters. Air shift transmissions are prone to problems.
      The truck I have now I've driven for half my career.
      It's a hand built hot rod, a Cummins 14 litre engine uprated to 600+ hp,a turbo change, and a bit more fuel supply to the injectors, (already big) it's 1000 hp. A semi-slow truck, 90 mph at 2400 rpm in 8th over. To fix this, I have the big twin countershaft Spicer 5spd overdrive main trans., and a "C" auxiliary trans. to replace this air shift abomination 13 speed. Howling, whining ill shifting junk.
      That truck drivers aren't what they used to be, is true. There's always been two kinds of drivers, truck drivers, and people that drive a truck. Today the latter is the overwhelming majority of drivers. All drivers today, 4 wheeler, and truck are courtesy challenged. Selfish;, self-centered with the belief they alone are entitled to hold up traffic, cut other vehicles off, then brake sharply, pass on the shoulders, in turns, and be a danger to themselves, and others. These drivers actually believe that they are the best driver's ever, and no one can tell them different. Drivers that talk about how good a driver they are to any that will listen, are invariably the worst drivers on The road.

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  7. I think you all miss the point. Without limiters companies could set their speed how they wanted, based on their loads, where they drive, etc. So, this situation probably wouldn't happen very much at all because one of them could have passed and the other may very well have backed out.
    I've been driving almost 30 years, and my first road tractor had a 300hp Cummins with an 8 speed Fuller transmission (yes, before the merger with Eaton). I thought my tractor started slowing down the moment it saw a hill coming. So, I've seen a lot of this. With speed limiters there will only be more congestion on hills and more pissed off drivers, and you'll still have to fight the slow 4 wheelers pulling their campers, those just too afraid to drive the speed limit, others afraid of everyone around them speeding by. Etc. afraid to enter the highway so they show down. It's not easy making the decision what to do with so many inexperienced drivers out there.

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